WARNING LEVEL High. FGMEMBERS under official Attack!

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Re: WARNING LEVEL High. FGMEMBERS under official Attack!

Postby IAHM-COL » Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:01 pm

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Re: WARNING LEVEL High. FGMEMBERS under official Attack!

Postby jwocky » Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:14 pm

To avoid the Josef Goebbels / StuartC disease:

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Postby Jabberwocky » Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:12 pm
They call it "a statement" over there, so yes, the same pamphlet. Actually, on a very technical level, the term "manifesto" would be more accurate because it is not an argumentation (it doesn't include pro and cons, only constructed propaganda stories) nor can one call it a "status" because it contains based on the propaganda constructs measures against persons that are self-justified by the before constructed twists of reality. So basically a typical manifesto.
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Re: WARNING LEVEL High. FGMEMBERS under official Attack!

Postby jwocky » Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:25 pm

You know, Israel, that is funny and sad at the same time:

- Heinrich Himmler warned that the Jews would dominate the public life in Germany

- Kim Jong-Un warned that unscrupulous elements try to dominate the international media to distract people from the beauty of his dictatorship (that was right after he fed his uncle literally to the dogs)

- Josef Stalin warned about capitalist agitators who would try to dominate the public opinion in 1952 (it was his self-justification to send more dissidents to Siberia)

- Senator McCarthy warend against Communist agitators who would try to dominate the public opinion also in 1952 (that was his self-justification to ban actors from work)

- Khmer Rouge4 leader Ieng Sary warned that monarchists would dominate the media in 1975 (that was their self-justification for the Cambodian genocide)

So seeing, who already used that line and the similar motivations behind those buzzlines (silencing freedom of speech), I have a feeling, Buckaroo finds himself in the company of a lot of insane dictators and wannabes right now ...
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Re: WARNING LEVEL High. FGMEMBERS under official Attack!

Postby IAHM-COL » Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:32 pm

Gary Neely Buckaroo wrote: This is about a very smart, very clever, very energetic, and very unscrupulous individual. This person already dominates the forums.



Well at least he has me in good opinion... or almost good

Certainly I will never be up to his rank... with whomever he is looking forward to be accompanied with.
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Postby IAHM-COL » Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:58 am

Protecting deletion

[quote="bugman";p=257667]
you might see something rather different! The post there by Ryan Young (a.k.a. Miller (a.k.a. Skyop)) - the original author of this family of aircraft - is a telling read. [/quote]


It is quite something indeed.
I found Skyop calling me an "a--" there.

I thought deprecative insults were a no-no. but in less than 24 hrs one man calls me unscrupulous and the other calls me an "a--"

So certainly not everyone is upheld to the same standards here!

Just saying :roll: :roll:
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Re: WARNING LEVEL High. FGMEMBERS under official Attack!

Postby legoboyvdlp » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:07 am

And now! jabberwocky and IAHM deleted?
I call for denouncing.
Shall we denounce on these sites?
http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php
http://www.simflight.com
http://www.pcpilot.net

Thats the last I am posting on those forums.
Perhaps.

I suppose I, Skyboat et al are not banned, so we can post messages from you about e.g. USA tour and jafva continuing here?
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Postby IAHM-COL » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:56 am

It will continue here. FGMEMBERS will continue here as well
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Re: WARNING LEVEL High. FGMEMBERS under official Attack!

Postby CaptainFG » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:09 pm

What do they mean by "Official Project" who is their leader?
Are these people being sent by Dovetail and Lamiar Reasearch to destroy FG ?
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Re: WARNING LEVEL High. FGMEMBERS under official Attack!

Postby IAHM-COL » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:11 pm

LOL
Good point

Curtis had been with the project for up to 15 years. He is one of the cofounders, and AFAIK the only cofounder left in the community. He owns infrastructure such as the Forum, and does not shake to use his ownership for private means, or by request of friends.

Official Project: No idea what it really means. There is only one Flightgear project as far as I know.

The aircrafts, they say the only "Official" aircraft are hosted in FGAddon. They don't really care about any other aircraft. Besides, they discourage the users freedoms of modify and/or redistribute -- which opposes the GPL license all of those aircrafts are released on. Since FGMEMBERs does both, they ban us from all their infrastructure (as to prevent us to invite, collaborate, and share with people)

https://github.com/FGMEMBERS
http://wiki.flightgear.org/FGMEMBERS==> the article explaining how to use FGMEMBERS together with FGDATA; purely a technical help article has been also blocked and banned!

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