Free Flight, Free Speech

Disclaimer: when I use the words 'fgmembers' and 'hostile' in the same sentence, I don't mean this at the individual level. I mean it in the larger project sense, their fork, and as it pertains to the leadership over there.

The larger point is that fgmembers is clearly a hostile fork. I understand no one wants to be called hostile, so they may react angrily to that characterization, but their efforts tick all the checkboxes exactly per the definition: http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/HostileFork

1. Someone wasn't happy about how the collaborative effort was being run.
2. They started a competing project, beginning with an exact copy of all the current work.
3. They are taking their group in a different direction rather than making any attempts at consensus.
4. They are lobbying developers here to leave our effort and assist them.

Someone may argue that their effort is simply a fork and not hostile. (1) please consider the words of their founding leader himself. This is a very recent post where he cites the obligatory nazi references, then performs "the reading of the enemies list". Then he states the goal of fgmembers to replace flightgear infrastructure has now been achieved: http://thejabberwocky.net/viewtopic.php ... 499&p=8673 If these words aren't perfectly self explanatory, and aren't clearly hostile, then I honestly do not know what is. (2) Consider there is no intent, no path, no desire for the leaders of fgmembers to ever see any of their mods flow back into the mainline project.

Again, please note that I'm not specifically criticizing users associated with fgmembers. Everyone has their perspective and reasons and can discern the situation for themselves. I simply assert that the leadership and intent of the fgmembers project is hostile in the sense that they don't have the good of the original FlightGear project in mind. And it's worth pointing out for all to see that the founding member (who setup the forum that bears his name) is actually very hostile towards a large group of founding members of the FlightGear project and hostile towards our established repositories and systems.

Disclaimer: when I use the words 'fgmembers' and 'hostile' in the same sentence, I don't mean this at the individual level. I mean it in the larger project sense, their fork, and as it pertains to the leadership over there.

The larger point is that fgmembers is clearly a hostile fork. I understand no one wants to be called hostile, so they may react angrily to that characterization, but their efforts tick all the checkboxes exactly per the definition: http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/HostileFork

1. Someone wasn't happy about how the collaborative effort was being run.
2. They started a competing project, beginning with an exact copy of all the current work.
3. They are taking their group in a different direction rather than making any attempts at consensus.
4. They are lobbying developers here to leave our effort and assist them.

Someone may argue that their effort is simply a fork and not hostile

(2) Consider there is no intent, no path, no desire for the leaders of fgmembers to ever see any of their mods flow back into the mainline project.