it0uchpods wrote:Boeing and Airbus are just as good and safe as each other, they just have different philosophy.
That has always been the point of the discussion here.
it0uchpods wrote:If either was unsafe, it wouldn't be certified still.
I believe this is what we refer to as the Strawman arguement. Nobody is saying if either was unsafer to the point of being unable to be certifiable. The point I'm tring to make is which approaches the philosophy better in relation to how we as humans perceive control. The Airbus does not allow ultimate control, it gives a hard limit to what their engineers deemed are the boundaries flight, in a commercial jetliner. And they have their reasons. Boeing, on the other hand, gives a 'soft limit'.
If you read up on the history of my posts, you will know that I am mostly sitting on the fence of automation and can go either side. Be it cars, planes, whatever. I personally prefer that the human driver / pilot has the last word.
For example, if I were to sit in a car, I would prefer that car to have a steering wheel, even if it drives itself. As such, Google's approach to self driving philosophy is to remove the steering wheel and make everyone no longer need a license to drive. Which, I think is a disaster in the making. Tesla's approach to self driving, even at level 2, is more in line with co-operating with how the human operates the wheel. And of course there are issues with that too, what with humans becoming complacent with their automation and then simply losing focus when they're supposed to be driving. You can draw parallels between the two.
If you read up on my post about the Asiana 214 KSFO incident, I was discussing about how Boeing's computer should actually have more of a handle on that when the pilots (all 3 of them (!)) had a lapse in judgement in the final approach resulting in people getting seriously hurt. It sucks to be in their position when humans in charge screw up so badly.
Don't be a fanboy, those people are irritating.
Nobody's being a fanboy of A vs B. We're all aviation enthusiasts here. I can draw up a bunch of issues I have with Boeing as well, but it's not relevant to this discussion.